dpp
07-28 07:21 AM
Even if USCIS reverts the decision back to use Vertical spill overs, it won't change the EB3-I PD position a dime. As it didn't change with that way in the past. So, there is no use in asking USCIS to change it back to Vertical from Horizontal spill over.
As somebody mentioned earlier, they were all taken by EB3 other workers all these years, it is better to ask USCIS to give preference to EB3-I and EB3-C before giving it to EB3 Other works so that they can get better share to complement for the lost happened all these years. I can understand the EB3-I frustration. We need to analyze who got the major share all these years and ask USCIS to give them to others lost in retrogression (EB3-I, EB3-C, EB2-I, EB2-C).
Otherwise, only way to get a common ground is, recapture and dependent exception bills. We should all work for these two common bills.
It may not directly harm visa recapture or any other official IV campaigns - at least for now! But don't you think if EB3-I campaign to revert to the old way of handling the overflow succeeds at all their will be an immediate follow up, counter campaign to re-revert the decision by EB2s? I don't see an end to this fight and I don't see any winners in the long term.
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't run your campaign. You have every right to do so. But please accept this for what it is. It will cause a split in IV members and that can not be avoided.
As somebody mentioned earlier, they were all taken by EB3 other workers all these years, it is better to ask USCIS to give preference to EB3-I and EB3-C before giving it to EB3 Other works so that they can get better share to complement for the lost happened all these years. I can understand the EB3-I frustration. We need to analyze who got the major share all these years and ask USCIS to give them to others lost in retrogression (EB3-I, EB3-C, EB2-I, EB2-C).
Otherwise, only way to get a common ground is, recapture and dependent exception bills. We should all work for these two common bills.
It may not directly harm visa recapture or any other official IV campaigns - at least for now! But don't you think if EB3-I campaign to revert to the old way of handling the overflow succeeds at all their will be an immediate follow up, counter campaign to re-revert the decision by EB2s? I don't see an end to this fight and I don't see any winners in the long term.
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't run your campaign. You have every right to do so. But please accept this for what it is. It will cause a split in IV members and that can not be avoided.
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a2006
05-02 11:31 AM
Hello, we are not asking for a change. We are asking for a correct interpretation of the law.
I am not disputing your interpretation of the law. I just wanted to clarify its effect on people from countries whose numbers are not retrogressed.
I am not disputing your interpretation of the law. I just wanted to clarify its effect on people from countries whose numbers are not retrogressed.
GCStatus
09-17 02:30 PM
As an employee, Except for the 485 filing, you are not supposed to pay for anything for the GC. The company that sponsers you pays for all that.
It is illigal for an employee to pay for the GC process.
I am not sure what you are trying to get. Are you going to write a letter to USCIS that you commited an illigal act? And you want to involve bunch of people along with you?
I am utterly confused here.
Its unfortunate you are confused. Still appreciate you took sometime even with this confused state of mind to give your valuable 2 cents.
First of all, its not between me and employer for that matter. USCIS is delaying the process with no logical reason ( am i repeating myself from my first post - hopefully you read again and properly this time Mr.confused ).
All we want is to have them follow a pattern. Wait what am i doing here, you are confused, doesnt matter what i write here. Let me know when you are normal ( after all the hormones are in order, if at all that happens ), we can talk.
It is illigal for an employee to pay for the GC process.
I am not sure what you are trying to get. Are you going to write a letter to USCIS that you commited an illigal act? And you want to involve bunch of people along with you?
I am utterly confused here.
Its unfortunate you are confused. Still appreciate you took sometime even with this confused state of mind to give your valuable 2 cents.
First of all, its not between me and employer for that matter. USCIS is delaying the process with no logical reason ( am i repeating myself from my first post - hopefully you read again and properly this time Mr.confused ).
All we want is to have them follow a pattern. Wait what am i doing here, you are confused, doesnt matter what i write here. Let me know when you are normal ( after all the hormones are in order, if at all that happens ), we can talk.
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EADplease
09-21 02:55 PM
I got receipt numbers from the checks. Receipt notice date is Sep 14. But haven't received the actual receipts yet.
For me, since my 140 was approved in TSC, my attorney sent 485 to TSC.
For me, since my 140 was approved in TSC, my attorney sent 485 to TSC.
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akhilmahajan
02-27 09:06 AM
Thanks a lot everyone.
Grand Total - $2162
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Grand Total - $2162
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
eb3_nepa
08-13 02:19 PM
This is the latest USCIS scheme (read SCAM)!!
Accept everything but issue notices at a snail's pace citing the "fee increase" as the reason for "front log" (btw what the heck is a FRONT LOG???)
Until you dont receive the notices you cant avail of the benefits anyways. In the meantime, without any notice they change processing times and take away interim benefits as they see fit.
Correct me if i am wrong but is the situation improving or getting worse?
Accept everything but issue notices at a snail's pace citing the "fee increase" as the reason for "front log" (btw what the heck is a FRONT LOG???)
Until you dont receive the notices you cant avail of the benefits anyways. In the meantime, without any notice they change processing times and take away interim benefits as they see fit.
Correct me if i am wrong but is the situation improving or getting worse?
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amitjoey
05-23 06:47 PM
Any reason why we arent considering the 2008 presidential candidates in our email campaign?
Go ahead and send them as well, after you are done sending the first 2 (your state) and the 10 other priority senators.
Go ahead and send them as well, after you are done sending the first 2 (your state) and the 10 other priority senators.
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chmur
07-27 12:08 AM
If someone tries to re-interprete, it will end up like:EB2 ROW -> EB3 ROW -> EB2I -> EB3 I, still no real benefit to EB3 I; only EB2 I will loose with some benefit to EB3 ROW.
That is your take ....or they could end up distributing the spill over Visas equally among all EB categories because the original quota is equally distributed too. This benefits both EB3 and EB2.
Please do not try to pass on your opinions as facts ...they are not.
That is your take ....or they could end up distributing the spill over Visas equally among all EB categories because the original quota is equally distributed too. This benefits both EB3 and EB2.
Please do not try to pass on your opinions as facts ...they are not.
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qasleuth
02-25 04:26 PM
Pappu,
Can you make it a sticky note so that the users in all the forums can see the donation stuff and also put on the procedure on how to donate.
FreeRiders,
Thats true there are a lot of free riders and unfortunately they actually make fun of the effort and at the same time jumps first to take the advantage.
Free riders if you are reading this and I know you are, please and please come out of your cheap mentality and donate. You know very well that saving 20$ will not help you build a TajMahal, but donating just 20$ or 50$ will make a huge difference to millions of people INCLUDING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
So don't be ashamed of yourself by not donating and donate generously.
Not sure where you get this philosophy of encouraging people to donate by hurling insults. There is a solid proposal from realizeit which is gaining traction and many people have committed donations. Motivating people by solid proposals rather than silly insults and calls to their conscience by abusing it gets us nowhere.
Can you make it a sticky note so that the users in all the forums can see the donation stuff and also put on the procedure on how to donate.
FreeRiders,
Thats true there are a lot of free riders and unfortunately they actually make fun of the effort and at the same time jumps first to take the advantage.
Free riders if you are reading this and I know you are, please and please come out of your cheap mentality and donate. You know very well that saving 20$ will not help you build a TajMahal, but donating just 20$ or 50$ will make a huge difference to millions of people INCLUDING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
So don't be ashamed of yourself by not donating and donate generously.
Not sure where you get this philosophy of encouraging people to donate by hurling insults. There is a solid proposal from realizeit which is gaining traction and many people have committed donations. Motivating people by solid proposals rather than silly insults and calls to their conscience by abusing it gets us nowhere.
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12-17 12:01 PM
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Sounds counterintuitive but probably true.
- Bertrand Russel (Conquest of Happiness)
Sounds counterintuitive but probably true.
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calboy78
08-18 11:33 PM
Again folks! please think hard, what can be done ???? (other than filling lawsuits)
Just throwing ideas (may or may not work..need to brainstorm):
Write letters to Ombudsman, USCIS, DHS, Senators. Keep writing until they listen
Just throwing ideas (may or may not work..need to brainstorm):
Write letters to Ombudsman, USCIS, DHS, Senators. Keep writing until they listen
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sweet_jungle
11-06 04:16 PM
just sent e-mail to ombudsman. I would encourage all of you to send e-mail regarding FP delay. it did help in getting receipt notices. Please do it for FP also.
dingudi,
I tend to disagree from you on your comment regarding a possible link between name check and FP. I think they are seperate processes and run in parallel - one does not depend on another. I've read somewhere that a guy's name check was initiated like a month before he went for his FP. He got that info from infopass appointment. Also, wouldn't the IOs mention about the pending name check if it was related to FP notice?
Regarding reaching a non TSC IO, I think is impossible since the call gets directed to TSC or NSC based on the receipt number that you key in when you call.
I agree with you that we'll end up getting the same damn letter as our friend about no appointment availabality at local ASC for our SR response. It seems to me that we have to try either the Infopass or just wait it out.
Has anyone thought about writing to ombdusman (if I spelled it correctly) about this FP notice issue or will that be not worth it?
dingudi,
I tend to disagree from you on your comment regarding a possible link between name check and FP. I think they are seperate processes and run in parallel - one does not depend on another. I've read somewhere that a guy's name check was initiated like a month before he went for his FP. He got that info from infopass appointment. Also, wouldn't the IOs mention about the pending name check if it was related to FP notice?
Regarding reaching a non TSC IO, I think is impossible since the call gets directed to TSC or NSC based on the receipt number that you key in when you call.
I agree with you that we'll end up getting the same damn letter as our friend about no appointment availabality at local ASC for our SR response. It seems to me that we have to try either the Infopass or just wait it out.
Has anyone thought about writing to ombdusman (if I spelled it correctly) about this FP notice issue or will that be not worth it?
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gc28262
03-07 12:03 PM
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I also called a member of IV core yesterday evening and they told me that they have told you not to do whatever that you are doing. I was told that you are hurting their effort and you have been told this pretty clearly. But you continue with this senseless and direction less ranting and you continue to cause damage to the effort for the removal of country-limits.
Its disgusting that rather than working with others to fix this complicated and difficult issue, you continue to beat your own drum, without actually doing anything, but at the same time hurting the issue you claim you care for. And on top of that you want to remove the country limits only until you get your green card. Is that rationale to you in any which way?????? No. Is your action selfish????? YES.
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I also worked with mirage on this effort, though I haven't send out letters or called congressmen yet.
This effort was started knowing IV did not endorse it. We knew IV did not endorse it, but never heard from anyone in core why they opposed it. We did some guess work of why IV opposed this effort and figured it out it was not that risky effort.
We hoped to have someone from IV core joining our call and explaining why it was not a good idea.
If someone starts a focus group ( whether IV endorses it or not), it is in IV core's interest to make sure IV core's concerns are heard in the effort.
mirage himself was close to IV core at some point. I guess he didn't have much idea why IV core opposed this.
Anyway IV core and members should join such efforts and let their voices heard. There is no point in complaining once focus team members have started acting on their agenda.
Coming to the effort, I don't think mirage is following any selfish agenda by his proposal. He is not proposing anything that will close doors behind him.
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I also called a member of IV core yesterday evening and they told me that they have told you not to do whatever that you are doing. I was told that you are hurting their effort and you have been told this pretty clearly. But you continue with this senseless and direction less ranting and you continue to cause damage to the effort for the removal of country-limits.
Its disgusting that rather than working with others to fix this complicated and difficult issue, you continue to beat your own drum, without actually doing anything, but at the same time hurting the issue you claim you care for. And on top of that you want to remove the country limits only until you get your green card. Is that rationale to you in any which way?????? No. Is your action selfish????? YES.
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I also worked with mirage on this effort, though I haven't send out letters or called congressmen yet.
This effort was started knowing IV did not endorse it. We knew IV did not endorse it, but never heard from anyone in core why they opposed it. We did some guess work of why IV opposed this effort and figured it out it was not that risky effort.
We hoped to have someone from IV core joining our call and explaining why it was not a good idea.
If someone starts a focus group ( whether IV endorses it or not), it is in IV core's interest to make sure IV core's concerns are heard in the effort.
mirage himself was close to IV core at some point. I guess he didn't have much idea why IV core opposed this.
Anyway IV core and members should join such efforts and let their voices heard. There is no point in complaining once focus team members have started acting on their agenda.
Coming to the effort, I don't think mirage is following any selfish agenda by his proposal. He is not proposing anything that will close doors behind him.
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rsharma
09-24 07:51 AM
Careful my friend. Porting rules will be as tough as the rules for applying in Eb2. If you make porting difficult, you will set a higher standard for the approval of your application in Eb2 ending up with the possible rejection of yours and other Eb2 applications.
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
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jacko
07-19 08:54 PM
Count me in for $100 for reimbursement.
One time contribution $100 to IV earlier in the month.
Thanks to IV core and members for all the organized effort! Did my small part by joining SJ rally and dragging along 4 others.
One time contribution $100 to IV earlier in the month.
Thanks to IV core and members for all the organized effort! Did my small part by joining SJ rally and dragging along 4 others.
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heathere3
09-04 10:05 AM
I received my receipts from the lawyer this morning. July 2nd applicaiton to NSC, transfered to TSC, labour approved TSC in Aug 2006.
Heather
EB-3 ROW
PD: Aug 2006
RD: July 2, 2007
ND: Aug. 24, 2007
EAD: ??
AP ??
Heather
EB-3 ROW
PD: Aug 2006
RD: July 2, 2007
ND: Aug. 24, 2007
EAD: ??
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PD_Dec2002
07-07 09:44 PM
This is what my lawyer mailed us today (I have always had good service from him):
In my very initial thoughts, on July 2 and July 3, I believed the lawsuit had no chance; but in following this more closely and doing my own research, I think increasingly that the lawsuit has merit. USCIS and DOS appear to have violated various of its internal rules and arguably actual statutes and regulations in handling all this.
Not that I am holding my breath, but just wanted pass it on....
That's nice to hear. Can he guess what would be the likely outcome? If the judge just takes USCIS/DOS to task then it doesn't help us.
1. Will they make the July visa bulletin current again?
2. If not, will they allow everyone to file for EAD and AP?
3. If neither #1 nor #2, will there be any financial reimbursement?
Regards,
Jayant
In my very initial thoughts, on July 2 and July 3, I believed the lawsuit had no chance; but in following this more closely and doing my own research, I think increasingly that the lawsuit has merit. USCIS and DOS appear to have violated various of its internal rules and arguably actual statutes and regulations in handling all this.
Not that I am holding my breath, but just wanted pass it on....
That's nice to hear. Can he guess what would be the likely outcome? If the judge just takes USCIS/DOS to task then it doesn't help us.
1. Will they make the July visa bulletin current again?
2. If not, will they allow everyone to file for EAD and AP?
3. If neither #1 nor #2, will there be any financial reimbursement?
Regards,
Jayant
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HV000
09-26 01:09 PM
If Labor Certification and I-140 Approval Notices are a property of the Employer, how the "Beneficiary" is supposed to invoke 'AC-21' for changing jobs in the future without having the approval notices? - My employer has a policy of NOT giving out approval notices of LC and I-140.
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coloniel60
06-11 01:17 PM
When I asked my employer to send me an employment letter so that I can file my I-485 application on my own, my employer insisisted that I mail him all the I-485 documents and a check for $2500 on his name and that he will add the employment letter and mail the application to USCIS.
Apart from gaining $1000 (2500 I sent him - 1500 for I-485 fees) does the employer benifit anything by mailing the application himself. Am I correct in assuming that I will receive the receipt notice even if the employer mailed the application to USCIS (He is not using a lawyer to represent me)? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Apart from gaining $1000 (2500 I sent him - 1500 for I-485 fees) does the employer benifit anything by mailing the application himself. Am I correct in assuming that I will receive the receipt notice even if the employer mailed the application to USCIS (He is not using a lawyer to represent me)? :confused: :confused: :confused:
raybarrone
08-13 05:02 PM
It is a hard fact but I guess I do not want to scare anyone. If you notice some people have got their JuLY 2ND filed cases receipt # and most of them have a Notice date of 08/04/2007 (the guys who got their receipt #). This notice date is the day the Receipt was generated. So today is 08/13/2007. It seems that USCIS is delaying this process of issuing receipts as that will give them a chance to reject applications after 17th. So I guess we should brace ourselves for rejection notices also......
Prashant
07-03 12:00 PM
Guyz what flowers are u sending lets keep it uniform ... l
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